S1E7: Southbound

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For decades, the Kline family thought there was only one man in the southbound car that killed Jerry, Linda, and Robin. As it turns out, there were three. 

In this episode, we'll introduce you to the Tommy Kaylor and his friends: Jimmie Hamilton and Larry Jones.

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Musical direction was provided by Julia Cannon, featuring Bobby Steinfeld on piano. Here's What I've Heard is produced by Courtney Abud and Craig Brown.

Episode 7 Bonus: Verzyl and Hillery

Before Edwin Verzyl worked to put Tommy Kaylor in jail, he led the charge on a different case: Booker T. Hillery—and that trial went straight to the United States Supreme Court.

S1E6: Jerry and Paul

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While at the Milton Hershey School, Jerry and Paul were split into different houses, with administrators often blaming Paul for any slip in Jerry's grades. Paul was small and ornery, which often got him into trouble with both students and adults. 

Eventually, Paul was given a choice: Shape up or leave. So, as a seventh-grader, Paul was forced to make a decision that he would come to regret for the rest of his life. 

A warning: This episode contains descriptions of abuse that may not be suitable for some listeners.

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Musical direction was provided by Julia Cannon, featuring Bobby Steinfeld on piano. Here's What I've Heard is produced by Courtney Abud and Craig Brown.

Episode 6 Bonus: Reunions

In this week's bonus episode, we'll hear Paul tell the story of his relationship with Linda Landis—and a reunion he will never, ever forget.

S1E5: Hershey, PA

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After a hard-fought battle on many sides, the custody dispute was settled by a judge—Jerry and Paul would attend the Milton Hershey School in Hershey, Pennsylvania. 

Started in 1910 by Milton S. Hershey as an industrial school for orphaned boys, the school was meant to be a safe haven. But while some boys thrived, others floundered—and sometimes for reasons outside of their control. What would the outcome be for Jerry and Paul?

A warning: This episode contains descriptions of abuse that may not be suitable for some listeners.

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Musical direction was provided by Julia Cannon, featuring Bobby Steinfeld on piano. Here's What I've Heard is produced by Courtney Abud and Craig Brown.

Episode 5 Bonus: Glee + Houseparents

Jerry Kline joined the Milton Hershey School Glee Club before his junior year. Glee Club singers traveled throughout the year and were considered the Milton Hershey School's greatest ambassadors. By the time Jerry joined, the Glee Club's director, Virgil L. Alexander, had already been leading the group for 25 years, turning the ensemble into a well-respected and revered performance team. In this bonus episode, Jerry reflects on his time singing under Mr. Alexander's direction and the fond memories he has of his time singing with the group. Plus, see pictures of the houseparents mentioned in Episode 5.

S1E4: Custody

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With their parents and sister gone, Jerry and Paul Kline were alone in California—across the country from the rest of their family. They needed new guardians, and with eight adult aunts and uncles, plus two sets of grandparents, it seemed they'd be in good hands once they reached Pennsylvania.

But somehow, Jerry and Paul did not end up living with their family. In fact, for the majority of their childhood, they didn't live it anyone's family. In this episode, we'll explore the custody arrangement that caused the boys so much pain, even decades after it was all said and done.

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Our featured organization this week is EndDD.org. To learn more about their programs, visit their website. Musical direction was provided by Julia Cannon, featuring Bobby Steinfeld on piano. Here's What I've Heard is produced by Courtney Abud and Craig Brown.

Episode 4 Bonus: Fern + Census Evidence

As we've discussed in previous episodes, Fern Seibert, Linda's mother, was a frequent flyer in the morning paper. In this bonus episode, we'll cover some of those reports. Plus, take a look at the census data that clued Courtney into the fact that her great-great-grandfather attended the Milton Hershey School.

S1E3: Linda Seibert Kline

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Like Jerry, Linda grew up in a big, chaotic family. She had five brothers, and some of them just couldn't seem to stay out of trouble. But Linda was the star of the family, and her death brought a cloak of sadness down upon them. 

In Episode Three of Here's What I've Heard, we dive into Linda's childhood and the events that preceded her departure from Pennsylvania and, ultimately, the accident that took her life.

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Our featured organization this week is National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. To learn more about their programs, visit their website. Musical direction was provided by Julia Cannon, featuring Bobby Steinfeld on piano. Here's What I've Heard is produced by Courtney Abud and Craig Brown.

Episode 3 Bonus: Family Photos

Linda's mother took many, many photographs of her children throughout the years. In this Here's What I've Heard bonus post, we're sharing some of the photos mentioned in Episode Three to give you a better idea of what Linda was like as a child.